Posts Tagged ‘perfect’

Humility: If everyone else is perfect, except for me

November 2, 2013

What if all humility is false humility, but some insist arrogantly and naively and desperately that there is some other kind?

Susano, Amaterasu and the Stranger in the Mirror

Susano, Amaterasu and the Stranger in the Mirror (Photo credit: timtak)

  • Daniel Fritschler It isn’t as though I am not intelligent enough to pick up on how others use reverse psychology….it is that I am not intelligent enough to want to manipulate others for my own amusement or gain. So using reverse psychology absolutely takes a certain mindset…one that I don’t have….it seems.
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    May I add a factor beyond all strategies, estimations on intelligence, grammar regulations and manipulative hidden agendas ~ an aware watcher who sees it all as it is without evaluations?
    This means to see with the eyes of an unconditional forgiving lover
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  • Daniel Fritschler To be an unconditional forgiving lover is it necessary or even pleasurable to recognize another’s pretense and/or psychology(which i can do just fine…thank you JR) and then put conditions or manipulate them using reverse psychology? Or maybe that is being loving when it is done without a condition of gain. Which might define a Sensei/guru relationship with a student as an example…otherwise to what benefit does reverse psychology have?…”oh look I can control another because they have a weak mind, might as well take advantage of the poor sap”…….just never really worked for me.
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    English: Human behavior and Intelligent behavior diagram Русский: Диаграмма: поведение человека и разумное поведение (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

  • J R Fibonacci Hunn:To Daniel Fritschler, reverse psychology does not take a mindset. You are just set against it.

    I say “do things that fascinate you and are fun.” You say: “No, I do not want violate the holy commandments of idealism.”

    How to win friends and influence people

    How to win friends and influence people (Photo credit: A tea but no e)

  • J R Fibonacci Hunn Daniel has an idea that love and manipulation must be mutually exclusive. His “mutually exclusive” presumptions causes immense amounts of suffering and confusion… which may be exactly what those presumptions are designed to do….So, I said to my 3 year old niece, “what are you going to pretend to be for Halloween?” She says, “Santa Claus.” I say: ‘My little Junior Sensei!”

    So, with or without evaluation, the witnessing can observe the coming and going of evaluation. My niece says “Santa Claus should be real or else people should not lie and say that he is.” I say: “Of course! You are very clever to have noticed that. In fact, people definitely should not be how they are, except for you. Very good.”

  • Daniel Fritschler . Exactly.
  • J R Fibonacci Hunn Only other people should be how they are. They are holy. They are pure. They are perfect just as God created them.I, on the other hand, probably should not be at all. I apologize.

    I’m sorry for criticizing anyone for failing to conform to the ideal of conformity that was drilled in to me by social conditioning. I should not have done that.

    However, I can empathize with everyone else who has criticized me hysterically and reactively and mindlessly. That was the right thing for them to have done. If they keep doing it, that is welcome as well.

  • J R Fibonacci Hunn That’s peace for you. That’s the kingdom of The Heaven.
  • Daniel Fritschler Let’s not concern ourselves with how people ARE, let’s focus on how they are NOT. I mean… what is this… heaven? For God’s sake ….we are burning in an oven here JR…it is planet hell.
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  • J R Fibonacci Hunn So, sitting in the kingdom of the heaven, I played the game of hell and said to my neice when she put on the Santa Claus costume: “Hey, you are not the REAL Santa, are you? Aren’t you just trying to trick me for your own gain because I have a weak mind?” What did she do? The little Junior Sensei laughed this little adorable giggle and said: “YES!”
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  • J R Fibonacci Hunn bwa ha ha ha
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  • Daniel Fritschler Child’s play
  • J R Fibonacci Hunn Manipulative! Holy Cow: do you think she was just “loving me” as a trick in order to get to my Halloween candy? That little 3 year-old manipulation machine!

Your perfect life: revolutionary results in health, wealth, and relationships

June 10, 2013
Your perfect life: revolutionary results in health, wealth, and relationships
 
 
“My life was perfect, but then I learned to speak….”
 
What exactly does perfection mean? Perfection is simply a word. There is no single meaning to any word, including the word “perfection.”
 
For instance, in the game of baseball, a “perfect” game is a label for a certain set of results (when the opposing team has an entire game with no hits, no base-runners, etc). In bowling, a perfect game is a score of 300. However, for a gymnast competing in the Olympics, a perfect score is not 300, but 10. 
 
 
So, the word perfection means different things in different contexts (in different settings or circumstances or conversations). Outside of a particular system of scoring, there may be no clear definition of perfection. Through language, we can create definitions of perfection.
 
Perfection is always relative to some standard (constructed in language). Without first inventing some rules for what is perfection and what is less than perfect, there is no referential foundation for labeling anything perfect or imperfect or anything else. 
 
We can inherit standards of perfection that were previously invented. We can also invent new standards of perfection (just like the people who invented bowling or baseball and so on). So perfection is simply a label that can be applied to compare some particular outcome to a pre-existing standard.
 
 
But what about a “perfect life?” What standards do we have for measuring whether an individual life is perfect or imperfect?
 
There are many popular standards of legendary characters: Superman, Oprah Winfrey, Mandela, Gandhi, Queen Victoria, George Washington, Yoda, Marilyn Monroe, James Bond, as well as heroic religious figures like Jesus Christ, the Buddha, Venus, St. Francis, and Mother Theresa. Some of these characters are completely invented. Some are historical characters whose lives have been referenced by many people in many ways (even in many languages). 
 
 
Imagine how George Washington might be described by various people: his wife, his parents, his children, a military mentor who trained and guided him, military troops that served under his command, opposing military troops, the military warlord leaders of tribes in the Mid-West of North America, and the leaders of military governments in Asia or Africa that had little interest in his activities. Some would know him from direct experience. Some would know OF him indirectly through people who know him personally. Some would know him only through reputation and rumor and legend (and even elementary school history books… or movies with translated subtitles).
So, even among people who know him personally, isn’t it possible that his wife might describe him slightly differently than his uncle or his grandson? It is not just possible, but absolutely inevitable!
 
Why would different people describe him differently? First, different people would use language differently. A person who speaks only French would use different words than someone who speaks only the language of the Delaware tribe (or Russian or Arabic or Japanese).
Further, if a few people were asked to describe his appearance, George Washington could be standing in the center of that circle of people. There he is, simply one man, and yet different people see him from different angles. Some will describe his face. Some will describe his wig. Some will describe his profile. To a child, he will seem huge and tall. To a larger man than he, Geroge’s physical size may not be very notable at all.
Now, is George Washington perfect or not? As an athlete, he may not be much of a bowler or gymnast or golfer. He may have rather little talent in those realms. To assess his perfection, we would need some standard for assessing perfection, right?
So, what standards could we use to evaluate George Washington? How does he compare to Jesus Christ? How does he compare to Martin Luther? How does he compare to Napoleon Bonaparte or Julius Caesar or Hercules or Zeus or Venus or Athena?
If I was the father of a woman that a young George Washington was courting, wouldn’t I be interested in whether I consider George Washington to be a decent match for my daughter? In general, is he the kind of fellow that I would want as a son-in-law? Is he a perfect match for my daughter? Maybe he is a better match for a particular one of my daughters – no, not her, but her older sister, right?
Ultimately, most people would compare George Washington to themselves. Is he taller than me or shorter than me? Is he better at horse-back riding than I am or not as good? Is he even interested in the same things that I am? Does he talk like I do? Does he walk like I do? Does he sulk like I do?
If I complain about how the British Colonial leaders are too greedy with their tiny new tax on tea, does he agree with me? Does he complain about the things that I complain about? Does he condemn the things that I condemn? Does he hate what I hate and fear what I fear and like what I like?
Well, I really would not know. Since I am typing on a computer right this second, I expect that he would be rather amazed at my incredibly advanced technological skills and equipment. In contrast, he would probably be very disappointed at my lack of experience in horse-riding, marksmanship, and of course cultivation of tobacco and hemp.
I know that he was a high-ranking member of the Free Masons. I do not know exactly how that was important in his life or career, but considering that so many of the statues and images of George show him wearing his masonic apron, apparently his membership was important to a lot of people making those statues and paintings. Obviously, if I was also a member of the Free Masons, then his membership might mean something different to me than to someone who was not a member, right?
So, to those threatened by George Washington, he may be vilified. To those seeking his protection, he may be glorified. Cities and monuments and temples may be named after him. Institutions may be planned, funded, and sustained to glorify his legacy (his legend).
 
So, again, what does all of this have to do with YOUR perfect life? You can stop comparing yourself to others religiously!
You can stop agonizingly trying to match pre-existing standards of perfection. You can also stop trying to destroy pre-existing standards of perfection (or otherwise “save” people from perfectionism). You can even participate in systems to promote a particular standard of perfection to a particular individual or to large groups of people (such as through public school programming or mainstream media publicity).
You can stop arguing that your life is not perfect. You can stop blaming others for your own past assertions that your life is imperfect (your parents, your teachers, your spouse, your co-workers, etc…). You can stop hiding “imperfections” and compensating for them… or you can continue!
You can consider the ancient spiritual teachings which declare that you were created perfect by a perfect creator. What does that mean? Does that mean that you are better than George Washington in every way (better at baseball, video games, and horse-back riding)? Or does being created as a perfect “image of God” (facet of God, branch of God, form of God) simply mean that you exist independent of any comparing that you or anyone else might do?
The presence of pre-existing standards is simply a fact. In every culture, people have standards that influence how they raise and nurture their children.
In my own cultural background, George Washington happens to be a venerated and even worshiped figure. Other cultures venerate and worship other figures. So, veneration and worship of heroes is simply a consistent pattern across various cultures.
George Washington

George Washington (Photo credit: cliff1066™)

Next, in order to be open to methods that consistently produce dramatic, breakthrough results in health, wealth, and relationships, it may be relevant to simply admit to the historical existence of prior programming about cultural ideals. It may be relevant to even be grateful for the existence and influence of cultural ideals, yet not consider them limits. They are only foundations, not ceilings.
If the ideals from my past are not sufficient to produce the results that appeal to me, so what? For a perfectionist, that may seem to be a confusing problem: how do I stay loyal to my past ideals and yet produce the results that I value? For former perfectionists, we can appreciate the myths and ideals of our past without making them in to limits. We can continue developing our ideals and values.
Winfrey on the first national broadcast of The...

Winfrey on the first national broadcast of The Oprah Winfrey Show in 1986 (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

As we shift from being a child to an adult and even to a grandparent, we can open to new experiences, new learning, new insights, new values, new ideals, new methods, and new results. We can even learn new languages and new ways to use a language that we already know.
The openness to new things is also referenced frequently in several ancient spiritual traditions. “Be as a little child” is a simple, concise version of that teaching.
Small children do not reject new information because it does not fit with their pre-existing models of idolatry. They simply do not have pre-existing linguistic models of how life should be. They do not reject aspects of reality that conflict with their most sacred obsessions and presumptions.
Over and over in the New Testament, the famous prophet Jesus quotes the Old Testament prophet Isaiah in regard to the innocent spirit of children as distinct from the hardened, mechanical, perfectionist spirit common amongst adults. Both prophets told humorous stories about the foolishness of so many adults. Some stories tell of adults who are so confused about language that they worship particular series of words. While this can be useful transitionally, the worship of a particular sequence of words is not the ultimate goal of spirituality.
What is the ultimate goal of spirituality and what is useful in promoting that goal? Many ancient and modern teachers suggest appreciating the receptivity of young children in order to experience what those teachers refer to with labels like “heaven.”
“And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”
(Luke 17:20-21 KJV)
5 minutes in to the video, Douglas talks about the openness of children as it relates to the kingdom of heaven.
Portrait of George Washington Carver.

Portrait of George Washington Carver. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

song: “you’re perfect”

January 11, 2013

 

I have a fantasy in my mind of you. You’re the one who is dreaming of my love. You like a song that’s fun and even kind of cute, but bold enough to be daring you to feel – something new that you’ve never quite felt before… or something old with a totally new momentum. Whatever you’ve been hoping you would hear is this: my permission to be too happy, now!

 

I know it’s weird that it could be so simple. I know it’s cool that it could be too easy. I know it’s wrong that no one told you this before, but you’re exactly who I’ve always wanted to meet.

 

picture frame

picture frame (Photo credit: Repoort)

 

Hear and Now

Hear and Now (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

 

I’ve got a picture frame ready for a photo of you. I’ve got a voicemail set up to hear your words. I’ve got some jewelry that my grandmother told me to save until the day that I slide it up your finger. I want to know what you think about everything. I want to know how you feel about everyone. I want to hear you laugh because I love your jokes. I want to hear you talk because I like the sound.

I know it’s weird that it could be so simple. I know it’s cool that it could be too easy. I know it’s wrong that no one told you this before, but you’re exactly who I’ve always wanted to meet.

To me, you are perfect. Maybe even too perfect, but I can settle for that.

 

 

 

The perfect problem: humorous, linguistic socializing

September 6, 2012
Sunlight Feed

Sunlight Feed (Photo credit: kennytyy)

In reply to The Pegasean (https://jrfibonacci.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/social-animals-and-cultural-evolution-of-herds/#comment-9543):

Thank you very much for you comments. I agree with you without any exception whatsoever, except perhaps for the following long list of exceptions:

 

I question the proposition that there is a “whatever [which] formed our universe” that is distinct from the universe itself. The idea of a created reality is logically quite flimsy. If reality is an effect, then what created the alleged cause of the alleged effect labeled as reality? Further, what caused the alleged cause?

Consider that it is as Jesus and so many others have said: “God is not exclusive. Look under a rock, and see God there. Look at some humans in the distance, and see God there. Look within, and see God there.”

To pose such a question (as in “what formed the universe?”) merely evidences the ridiculousness of the verbal constructions. With language, contrasting “partners” can be isolated linguistically and then labeled as the cause and the effect.

However, to say that the sunlight causes the daytime to be warm is ultimately just poetry. The sunlight is itself just the effect of some earlier cause. The sunlight has no authority of it’s own, no will of it’s own.

The Earth seen from Apollo 17.

The Earth seen from Apollo 17. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

The sunlight is just an instrument of the universe, of God, of Life. Each form isolated within language is a facet of the Holy, which includes all of language, yet is also beyond language. Each component is an element of the system. One cannot remove a single particle from the universe. Or, if one did so, consider that then it would be an entirely different universe!

So, why is the universe how it is? “Why” is a question that the human portion of the universe can ask in words and then answer in a bunch of other words. Why do humans ask such questions and answer them how they do? Because the sun shines and the universe warms up the surfaces of planets during the daytime and some humans like to experiment with other humans in regard to socializing.

This is just a bunch of socializing. Churches and governments and universities and so on are just the universe socializing with itself as a bunch of earthlings. So is the entire internet and every library and every unit of language, written or oral.

Furthermore, the ideas (or labels) of perfection and imperfection are COMPLETELY social. They are absolutely arbitrary. A perfect butterfly is completely destroyed caterpillar. A perfect wood shingle roof is a totally ruined tree. A perfect steaming cup of coffee is a horrible liquid for watering the plants.

As for any “pro-diversity bias,” that is just another conceptual bias. Perhaps you have forgotten that the universe has allegedly killed 99% of the species of earthlings (animals and plants if not also fungi and so on) that it has so far formed in to as itself.

As for the so-called new religion of “science,” it’s “belief systems” are also presumptive and preposterous (just like those of the so-called “old” religions). However, science is ultimately just another art form, just like “religion.” They are both really just for socializing.

Dance of the Lord of Death, Paro

Dance of the Lord of Death, Paro (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

By socializing, I include things like the detonation of hydrogen bombs as well as mining of oil and uranium and salt. Socializing is not just something that humans do with each other. Socializing is what the entire universe is doing, including by forming humans.

The entirety of creation is creative creativity. It never began. It will never end. Those are just superstitious ideas formed of words (and sometimes worshiped idolatrously).

First ever "Earthrise" photograph, t...

First ever “Earthrise” photograph, taken from lunar orbit during Apollo 8 (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

God is the subatomic and the astronomic and the cellular and even the landline. Of course, all of this is purely speculative. I got it directly from God, and we all know what an imprecise translator God can be, right? We might as well dismiss all of these words as just a bunch of socializing!

As for being outside of evolution, I agree with that completely and wholeheartedly. I do realize that you did not assert anything like that, but you really should have and I see no reason to avoid agreeing with you on that point just because you never made it.

Therefore, I must also disagree with you by insisting that humor is the source of all of humanity’s worst problems, except for the horrific problem of sunlight causing the earth to warm up during the daytime, which is of course caused by the earth’s rotating around and around the axis of the earth, which we should form a campaign to remove. Without the axis of the earth, there would be no imaginary point of reference in language around which for the earth to allegedly rotate, which is the cause of all of the most severe problems in existence, as in whatever reveals the imprecision of my favorite linguistic models of how the universe is the way it is instead of some other way.

My words are the only right words. My words are the only perfect words. If my words apparently conflict with the obvious patterns of the rest of the universe, that is because the rest of the universe is just plain arrogant and disobedient. That is why we obviously must punish the earth by removing the axis. Hurry, everyone, before it is too late!

UNIQUE PICTURE: Earth as seen from the outer S...

UNIQUE PICTURE: Earth as seen from the outer Solar System (Photo credit: Icarus Kuwait)

song recording: “perfect” (miracle of God)

July 28, 2012

 

 

from gods heaven above her angel from heaven

from gods heaven above her angel from heaven (Photo credit: duanecouch)

 

You were perfect                       but then you learned to speak            and then you could believe                in something you should be
instead of what is real                        you learned to worship an ideal

it’s only natural                     that the actual issue is just your disbelief            that it could even be possible               that what you say is optional
but what you are is truly magical mystical              a miracle of God

it’s only logical that how you are                is how God made you – perfect-      and if you claim to be flawed    that can help you get along
with other folks who say that they should not be how they are

but don’t believe a word of it         find out for yourself through your own experience        then you can have faith in it         not hoping or wishing but knowing in your heart

you are perfect                           still                         but don’t believe a word of it                   just feel it
you can forget your affirmations      when you have this revelation          you can stop praying to become what you now are                you are perfect

 

 

 

song recording: already real (the real you)

April 26, 2012
Triumph of Faith over Idolatry, by Jean-Baptis...

Triumph of Faith over Idolatry, by Jean-Baptiste Théodon (French, 1646–1713). Church of the Gesù, Rome, Italy. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

 

 

You               I                   love.             why?
don’t know     don’t care      don’t need    more prayers

Mine is the faith        that raises mountains                 mine is the faith        that makes you feel
mine is the faith        that moves the oceans                mine is the faith        already real

Truth              I                   am.                lies?
won’t hide       won’t trick     won’t make a lick of difference

Mine is the faith        that raises mountains                 mine is the faith        that makes you feel
mine is the faith        that moves the oceans                mine is the faith        already real

show me something pure        show me something true            show me something perfect             show me the real you
the only one you are               the holy child of God                 the birth of a new star                      a flower opening

hear these words       write them down             in a good book              spread it round
change the language  for each audience           translate new sounds    but keep the spirit       whole and faithful

Mine is the faith        that raises mountains                 mine is the faith        that makes you feel
mine is the faith        that moves the oceans                mine is the faith        already real

show me something pure        show me something true            show me something perfect             show me the real you

 

 

Matthew 5:48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is 

 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect
Be ye therefore perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect
//bible.cc/matthew/5-48.htm – 15k

 

Romans 11:16 If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is 

If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole
batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches. 
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1 Peter 1:15 But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in 

But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; …. 
//bible.cc/1_peter/1-15.htm – 16k

 

1 Peter 1:16 for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.”

for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.” … 
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Acts 19:2 and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when 

and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” They answered,
“No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit 

Leviticus 11:44 I am the LORD your God; consecrate yourselves and 

I am the LORD your God; consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am holy
You must consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am holy

Leviticus 20:26 You are to be holy to me because I, the LORD, am 

You are to be holy to me because I, the LORD, am holy, and I have set you apart
from the nations to be my own.  You must be holy because I, the LORD, am holy
//bible.cc/leviticus/20-26.htm – 16k

Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And if I have prophecy, and I know all mysteries and all knowledge and if I have all faith so that I may remove mountains, and I have no love in me, I would be nothing.

 

Matthew 17:20 He replied, “Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”


Matthew 21:21 Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done.


Mark 11:23 “I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him.


Acts 13:1 In the church at Antioch there were prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon called Niger, Lucius of Cyrene, Manaen (who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch) and Saul.


Romans 15:14 I myself am convinced, my brothers, that you yourselves are full of goodness, complete in knowledge and competent to instruct one another.


1 Corinthians 11:4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head.


1 Corinthians 12:9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit,


1 Corinthians 12:10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.


1 Corinthians 13:8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.


1 Corinthians 14:1 Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy.


1 Corinthians 14:2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.


1 Corinthians 14:4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.


1 Corinthians 14:6 Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?


1 Corinthians 14:29 Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said.


1 Corinthians 14:39 Therefore, my brothers, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues.


1 Corinthians 15:51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed–


2 Corinthians 12:11 I have made a fool of myself, but you drove me to it. I ought to have been commended by you, for I am not in the least inferior to the “super-apostles,” even though I am nothing.

Titus 1:15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are 

To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe,
nothing is pure Everything is pure to those whose hearts are pure
//bible.cc/titus/1-15.htm – 17k

 

2 Samuel 22:27 to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the 

to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the crooked you show yourself shrewd. 
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Psalm 18:26 to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the crooked 

to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the crooked you show yourself shrewd. 
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a dialogue on the word “God”

April 16, 2012
HEAVEN

HEAVEN (Photo credit: Telstar2000)

A dialog on God


Have you ever reviewed the origin of the word “God?” All references to the English word “God” reference back to the Old Irish word for “voice” and further back to a Sanskrit word for the linguistic archetype “Indra” of Hinduism.

[Old English god;  related to Old Norse goth,  Old High Germangot,  Old Irish guth  voice]

god

O.E. god “supreme being, deity,”
from P.Gmc. *guthan
(cf. Du.god, Ger. Gott, O.N. guð, Goth. guþ),
from PIE *ghut- “that which is invoked” 
(cf. Skt. huta- “invoked,” an epithet of Indra),
from the root *gheu(e)- “to call, invoke.”
From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/god

Where is God?

God is everywhere.

If God was only in one place, though, what would be the name for where God is?

God is in Heaven.

Where is heaven?

I don’t know, but it’s not out there. Out there is the world.

Dome of the Rotunda of the Church of the Holy ...

Dome of the Rotunda of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem, Israel (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

How does God interact with creation, like how odes God interact with the world?

God creates the world. God is in heaven and, from heaven, God forms the world. The world forms according to God’s Will. Whatever God wills in heaven to happen, the world out there fulfills or produces.

What does God do to produce things- like how does God produce a particular thing? Ow does God operate when willing things in to existence?

God just names things. God blesses things with attention and then gives them a specific name. God separates things in to categories, like sorting things in to groups of similar stuff. When God is willing for something to happen, then it just happens by itself, but I don’t know if God even knows exactly how things happen. Gods wills for thing to happen and then they happen. It can be instant. That’s what I read at least.

Can you describe to me how you run?

What?

How exactly do you run? What do you do?

I don’t know. I just basically think of running and then running happens by itself.

So how exactly do you digest things? Do you even think about digesting things?

No. It just happens without me even thinking of it.

Okay, so some things happen without you thinking of them in advance and some things happen just by thinking of them, right?

Right.

But there are other things that you focus intently on doing, like when you are figuring out what instructions to give someone to get from one place to another. There are things that only happen if you concentrate, right?

Sure , but what about God?

God just wills things- like naming an outcome- and then things can happen by themselves, right?

Sure, okay.

So, who has access to God?

Everyone has access to God. Anyone who can use words can talk directly to God.

So God is the capacity or function of identifying something as an outcome and then it just basically happens by itself, like for you running is a function at which you are competent to create at the level of God. You just think of running and then it happens by itself.

No, I’m not God. God is in heaven. I’m out in the world.

Are you out in the world?

Of course!

Look closely. Do you see yourself out there?

I could. I could see myself in the mirror or see my hand or feel my head.

Are you sure that’s you?

Yes!

It sounds like a body though. You see a body out there in the world, right?

Yeah.

But are you that body?

What are you talking about?

Can one part of your body see another part of your body?

Well, my eyes can see.

But people can have eyes without seeing- like blind people. Are you a body or do you just have a body?

Well, I guess I have a body.

So what are you? Are you the result of the body or can you direct the body?

I can direct it.

Great. Now let’s back up: where is the one place that God lives?

Heaven.

And where is heaven?

Well, heaven is wherever God is.

What is heaven like?

Well, everything is perfect in heaven.

Heaven

Heaven (Photo credit: adyyflickr)

Perfect! That’s it!

What?

Everything is perfect in heaven. If something is imperfect, that imperfection is in the world. Imperfection does not happen in heaven. God is in heaven saying that everything is perfect, then thinking about what God is willing to happen and they those things can just happen, like out there in the world, as distinct from in here, in heaven..

And where is heaven?

Yes, that is the ultimate question, isn’t it? Heaven is in here, where God forms the world out of language.

But what if the world does not form from out of language?

Well, then everything would be heaven.

What?

Language is what isolates the world from heaven or isolates God from anything else. God creates the world with language. Before God creates the world, there is just God in heaven. In fact, before language, perhaps there is no heaven and no God in it. God says how the world is going to be, and then the world is that way. The world is the way it is because God says that the world is the way that God says it is going to be.

So, are you saying that I’m God?

No, I was not saying that you are God, but you just did.

So who are you then anyway?

That is an excellent question. Who do you say that I am?

The Child of God.

And so it is written- and it has been spoken for many centuries before it was written- that those who do the Will of God shall be called the children of God. Who would know God’s Will so perfectly to be able to identify those who do God’s will and then to call them the children of God?

God.

That’s right. So, who are you?

Well, I guess that if I’m not the body but just have one, then I’m whatever I say I am.

And what do you say that you are?

God?

Was that a statement or a question?

Well, that was a question.

Says who?

I say so.

Exactly. So if it is the way it is simply because you say so, then who are you?

God, I don’t even know what to say.

If you say so, then you don’t know what to say, right?

Well…

Anyway, I asked “who are you” and the first few words you said in answer were “God, I don’t know” or something like that, right?

Right.

So, I asked who are you and the first word you used to answer was “God,” right?

Oh yeah.

Yes?

Yes.

So you say you’re God because you say you’re God, right?

Wait, that’s not what I said.

Well then who said that?

Oh, so you’re just saying that God is language itself, right? God is just the one in heaven that is speaking the world out there into being, into form!

Well, that’s not exactly what I said.

Whatever.

Whatever?

Yeah, whatever. Anyway, I say that God is just the one creative process in heaven that is speaking the world out there into being, into form, by using language. God is the one word that language forms as a word symbolizing the creative function that uses the rest of language to form the world into being.

So who are you?

Who do you say I am?

You’re me. We’re the same.

The Hall of Prayer for Good Harvest at the Tem...

The Hall of Prayer for Good Harvest at the Temple of Heaven in Beijing. April,2010 ‪中文(简体)‬: 天坛祈年殿正面, 2010年春 (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Okay, and who do you say that you are?

Oh, that’s easy. I’m the one that uses language to form the world into being, including you. In other words, I’m God. I’m in heaven. The world only happens inside of my speaking. I speak the language of heaven and then heaven shows up out there, too. The language of heaven is a match between what is spoken in here and what happens out there.

Says who?

Exactly.

Published on: Apr 22, 2010

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The Ten Commandments of Perfectionism

April 9, 2012
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The Ten Commandments of Perfectionism

#1 Always avoid the appearance of perfectionism. Avoid appearing to be a perfectionist because only people who believe that they are not perfect already would display any of the traits of perfectionism, and the whole idea here is for other people (all of them) to perceive you as perfect. By the way, obviously, the only certain way to do this is to completely avoid other people.

#2 Hold on. Forget I even said that. Here’s what we are going to do instead. You are going to go around and fix all the imperfections of everyone else. If you ever notice people displaying any idealism, first criticize them for it. People obviously should not be idealistic, right? So, as a demonstration of your having finally perfected post-idealistic realism, you must plan to spontaneously ridicule and suppress the idealism of other people (yes, all of them) because anyone else displaying idealism clearly interferes with me pretending to be perfectly beyond idealism, so then I am forced to get in to arguments with them about how they should not be so idealistic, or at least not in the ways that threaten my most sacred idealisms, such as my idealism about whether or not I am already perfect. Anyway, that has been taking up a lot of my time and energy, so naturally I want you go out there and handle that for me while I wait here. By the way, when you come back, then I will tell you the other 8 commandments, so you better hurry.

Matthew 5:48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is 

Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect But you are
to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect
http://bible.cc/matthew/5-48.htm – 15k
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Leviticus 19:2 “Speak to the entire assembly of Israel and say to them: ‘Be holy because I, the LORD your God, am holy.

<< Matthew 5:48 >>

New International Version (©1984)
Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

New Living Translation (©2007)
But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect.

English Standard Version (©2001)
You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
“Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

International Standard Version (©2008)
So be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Be therefore perfect, just as your Father who is in Heaven is perfect.”

GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
That is why you must be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect. Don’t Do Good Works to Be Praised by People

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Be you therefore perfect, even as your Father who is in heaven is perfect.

American King James Version
Be you therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

American Standard Version
Ye therefore shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect.

Darby Bible Translation
Be ye therefore perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect.

English Revised Version
Ye therefore shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Webster’s Bible Translation
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father who is in heaven is perfect.

Weymouth New Testament
You however are to be complete in goodness, as your Heavenly Father is complete.

World English Bible
Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

Young’s Literal Translation
ye shall therefore be perfect, as your Father who is in the heavens is perfect.

God: “Be Ye Perfect.” Moses: “Well, what if it doesn’t resonate with me?”

March 30, 2012
Moses striking the rock

Moses striking the rock (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

God: “I am perfect and holy. What else can I create but perfection and holiness? All that I create is perfect and holy. In particular, I create you as perfect and holy. Notice that I do not condemn you for a small speck that obscures your perception. I declare you blameless. Any speck must be the perfect speck for you to perfectly remove from your own perception. I should know. I put it there, right?”
Moses: “Yeah, but, I don’t want to lose these great people….”
God: “Of course not. You appreciate those who are familiar to you. However, I did not create you to fear. Forget your worry of loss. Be grateful without fearing loss and your gratitude will be enough. Go to your people and tell them this:”
<< Leviticus 19 >>
Young’s Literal Translation

1 And Jehovah speaketh unto Moses, saying,

2 Speak unto all the company of the sons of Israel, and tell them, “Ye are holy, for holy am I, Jehovah, your God.”

Moses: “You want me to say out loud in public to a bunch of people ‘I am holy because I am your God?’ What if they reject me? Don’t you think that some of them may shudder with vile spirits like in that other Bible story?”

God: “Absolutely. However, if you love me, then you will love them. Do not fear them. Love them. Just tell them that you speak for me and that I declare them to be perfect and holy. I command it.”

Moses: “Well, okay, but what if it just doesn’t resonate with me?”

God: “Do you want me to make another bush explode in to flames again?”
Moses: “No, I got the message the first time. I will go tell them right away!”

http://bible.cc/matthew/5-48.htm

Barnes’ Notes on the BibleBe ye therefore perfect … – The Saviour concludes this part of the discourse by commanding his disciples to be “perfect.”[as in HEALED, WHOLE] This word commonly means “finished, complete, pure, holy.” Originally, it is applied to a piece of mechanism, as a machine that is complete in its parts. Applied to people, it refers to completeness of parts, or perfection, where no part is defective or wanting.

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a dialog on God (definition of “God”)

March 19, 2012

A dialog on God

Have you ever reviewed the origin of the word “God?” All references to the English word “God” reference back to the Old Irish word for “voice” and further back to a Sanskrit word for the linguistic archetype “Indra” of Hinduism.

[Old English god;  related to Old Norse goth,  Old High Germangot,  Old Irish guth  voice]

god

O.E. god “supreme being, deity,”
from P.Gmc. *guthan
(cf. Du.god, Ger. Gott, O.N. guð, Goth. guþ),
from PIE *ghut- “that which is invoked” 
(cf. Skt. huta- “invoked,” an epithet of Indra),
from the root *gheu(e)- “to call, invoke.”
From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/god

Where is God?

God is everywhere.

If God was only in one place, though, what would be the name for where God is?

God is in Heaven.

Where is heaven?

I don’t know, but it’s not out there. Out there is the world.

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How does God interact with creation, like how odes God interact with the world?

God creates the world. God is in heaven and, from heaven, God forms the world. The world forms according to God’s Will. Whatever God wills in heaven to happen, the world out there fulfills or produces.

What does God do to produce things- like how does God produce a particular thing? Ow does God operate when willing things in to existence?

God just names things. God blesses things with attention and then gives them a specific name. God separates things in to categories, like sorting things in to groups of similar stuff. When God is willing for something to happen, then it just happens by itself, but I don’t know if God even knows exactly how things happen. Gods wills for thing to happen and then they happen. It can be instant. That’s what I read at least.

Can you describe to me how you run?

What?

How exactly do you run? What do you do?

I don’t know. I just basically think of running and then running happens by itself.

So how exactly do you digest things? Do you even think about digesting things?

No. It just happens without me even thinking of it.

Okay, so some things happen without you thinking of them in advance and some things happen just by thinking of them, right?

Right.

But there are other things that you focus intently on doing, like when you are figuring out what instructions to give someone to get from one place to another. There are things that only happen if you concentrate, right?

Sure , but what about God?

God just wills things- like naming an outcome- and then things can happen by themselves, right?

Sure, okay.

So, who has access to God?

Everyone has access to God. Anyone who can use words can talk directly to God.

So God is the capacity or function of identifying something as an outcome and then it just basically happens by itself, like for you running is a function at which you are competent to create at the level of God. You just think of running and then it happens by itself.

No, I’m not God. God is in heaven. I’m out in the world.

Are you out in the world?

Of course!

Look closely. Do you see yourself out there?

I could. I could see myself in the mirror or see my hand or feel my head.

Are you sure that’s you?

Yes!

It sounds like a body though. You see a body out there in the world, right?

Yeah.

But are you that body?

What are you talking about?

Can one part of your body see another part of your body?

Well, my eyes can see.

But people can have eyes without seeing- like blind people. Are you a body or do you just have a body?

Well, I guess I have a body.

So what are you? Are you the result of the body or can you direct the body?

I can direct it.

Great. Now let’s back up: where is the one place that God lives?

Heaven.

And where is heaven?

Well, heaven is wherever God is.

What is heaven like?

Well, everything is perfect in heaven.

Perfect! That’s it!

What?

Everything is perfect in heaven. If something is imperfect, that imperfection is in the world. Imperfection does not happen in heaven. God is in heaven saying that everything is perfect, then thinking about what God is willing to happen and they those things can just happen, like out there in the world, as distinct from in here, in heaven..

And where is heaven?

Yes, that is the ultimate question, isn’t it? Heaven is in here, where God forms the world out of language.

But what if the world does not form from out of language?

Well, then everything would be heaven.

What?

Language is what isolates the world from heaven or isolates God from anything else. God creates the world with language. Before God creates the world, there is just God in heaven. In fact, before language, perhaps there is no heaven and no God in it. God says how the world is going to be, and then the world is that way. The world is the way it is because God says that the world is the way that God says it is going to be.

So, are you saying that I’m God?

No, I was not saying that you are God, but you just did.

So who are you then anyway?

That is an excellent question. Who do you say that I am?

The Child of God.

And so it is written- and it has been spoken for many centuries before it was written- that those who do the Will of God shall be called the children of God. Who would know God’s Will so perfectly to be able to identify those who do God’s will and then to call them the children of God?

God.

That’s right. So, who are you?

Well, I guess that if I’m not the body but just have one, then I’m whatever I say I am.

And what do you say that you are?

God?

Was that a statement or a question?

Well, that was a question.

Says who?

I say so.

Exactly. So if it is the way it is simply because you say so, then who are you?

God, I don’t even know what to say.

If you say so, then you don’t know what to say, right?

Well…

Anyway, I asked “who are you” and the first few words you said in answer were “God, I don’t know” or something like that, right?

Right.

So, I asked who are you and the first word you used to answer was “God,” right?

Oh yeah.

Yes?

Yes.

So you say you’re God because you say you’re God, right?

Wait, that’s not what I said.

Well then who said that?

Oh, so you’re just saying that God is language itself, right? God is just the one in heaven that is speaking the world out there into being, into form!

Well, that’s not exactly what I said.

Whatever.

Whatever?

Yeah, whatever. Anyway, I say that God is just the one creative process in heaven that is speaking the world out there into being, into form, by using language. God is the one word that language forms as a word symbolizing the creative function that uses the rest of language to form the world into being.

So who are you?

Who do you say I am?

You’re me. We’re the same.

Okay, and who do you say that you are?

Oh, that’s easy. I’m the one that uses language to form the world into being, including you. In other words, I’m God. I’m in heaven. The world only happens inside of my speaking. I speak the language of heaven and then heaven shows up out there, too. The language of heaven is a match between what is spoken in here and what happens out there.

Says who?

Exactly.

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