Respecting terror, terrorism, and tyranny

MS wrote: Government is more worried about its citizens [turning against the government] than this never ending war on terror. We should rename that shit and call it what it is.

I have been researching really since 9/11 and all you really have to do is follow the money…. where it does and doesn’t go.

JR wrote:

Governments govern their human resources, including the governing of the attention of the masses, the values of the masses, the actions, and so on. If you ever think “that should never be the way that it is,” then that is a program that has been installed to govern your values. That is programmed denial.

“Following the money” does not produce much real benefit. Instead I invite you to click this and explore the simplicity of what money really is:

MS replied:

But that [following the money?] is what opened my eyes to a lot of things. I don’t expect anyone to believe me. You have to do that for yourself. Money is a good place to start. I feel its the root of all evil.

Programs yes I agree. We all are [programmed?] to some extent. It’s a lot like the movie the matrix: “The very system we live in is a program.”

Most of us don’t know how to be your own person or own authority. It’s actually very scary when you first figure it out. But that’s how they got us. I refuse to live in fear anymore.

Example: We bust our asses for the program called money. We work for it to pay our way in this program ie: food, shelter, fuel etc. The value we put on it runs our lives and is in itself is a form control. The debt we are in because of money is a serious issue. A form a slavery.

What would happen if we all decided to not place so much value on it? In my mind, that’s why money in itself the root of all evil. But there is hope. We don’t have to live that way……… I have been attacked for thinking this way, so bring it on


JR replied:


You are about to read some constructions in language that may be somewhat unfamiliar and yet refreshing, like things that you already recognize as accurate (though you may have not yet constructed that particular thought yourself). So, next we will explore the words fear and evil.

First, we know what fear is. It is a type of response that we can witness in many creatures. Fear includes extremes like terror as well as mere fright. We usually will say that being startled or surprised are not intense enough to call them fear. They just make us alert. Fright and tear and all forms of fear make us alarmed (stressed), which is beyond just alertness or caution.

We could say that there are two kinds of people who are ruled by fear. First are people who in a particular moment are at least frightened or anxious. Because of the anatomy of the brain, when fear is present, it always rules over all other functions, such as breathing.

So we can already admitted that anyone can be ruled by fear in a moment, such as during a nightmare while sleeping. The experience of fear actually will significantly alter the breathing of the person dreaming.

So there are really just two depths of being ruled by fear. At the more moderate depth, the fear is just a transition ruler and the person knows when fear is present (altering their breathing and so on) and when it is not active.

Keep in mind that I am classifying fear as a healthy function of the brain, with a bunch of stress hormones like cortisol and adrenalin being part of the mechanism of fear.

So what is the more pervasive or deep form of fear? That is when the fear is so familiar that the person is constantly ruled by fear and they only experience a variation between hysterical panic and at least moderate anxiety. When they are relatively calm, they may call that being free from fear. However, they are just relatively calm compared to occasional episodes or attacks of panic.

Mini forum time (a reference to the Landmark Forum from Landmark Education / Landmark Worldwide). Lol
I love rehearing much of this stuff
I always hear more each time.

JR again:

Panic is also a neurological state. It involves the suffocation of the brain cells due to a lack of oxygen getting from the bloodstream in to the Brain cells. Some people call it hyperventilation, which can be sudden or Chronic. For the vast majority of the civilized population, they experience nearly their entire adulthood in mild chronic hyperventilation, as in a near constant stress with occasional relief.

Some people are so frightened of social criticism that they seek to block the display of fear. They do not want others to know whether they’re afraid. So, they will block their facial expressions and hOld their tongue to block vocalizations of fright.

If Startled, instead of simply being afraid, they will jump right to an explosion of rage or a collapse in to grief and weeping. They are afraid of the display of fear, as in a shamed to be afraid.

So when they are afraid to be witnessed as experiencing fear, then they will habitually justify and blame. “The fear was just an exception,” they say, then they blame others to externalize their inner reaction.

The issue is “out there.” There is a problem and it is that villain who is victimizing me by Doing what should not ever be done.

They relate to fear as something that they should not have and it is wrong and so they seek to distance themselves socially from their own fear. They will find someone to blame for causing them the embarrassment of fear. They may say extremely ironic things, like “no it is not that I was afraid, but it is just that Jamie is how they should not be and THEY frightened me although I was not frightened. They tried to frighten me but failed. No, I am not upset that they upset me because I am not upset. This is just frustration, not upset. This is just bravery, not fear.”

They organize their life around avoiding embarrassment. What kind of embarrassment? The socially recognition of their fear.

Hysterically, they shame others who experience fear. “Why do you want to carry a gun? And Why do you always have to buckle your seatbelt? Are you really THAT much of a pussy?”

JL: lol

JR continued:
So I did talk about two kinds of people being ruled by fear and how it is really just two Modes or ways of being. At one point in my life I was occasionally scared. Eventually, the social pressures on me were so intimidating that I was virtually always scared of social criticism. I got extremely competitive. I wanted people to agree with me and I wanted to invalidate any statement contrary to whatever dogmas I worshiped. In other words, I was in a state of chronic hysteria or chronic paranoia or chronic anxiety. As for whether 90% of adults suffer like that… Or only 80%, I don’t know for sure (or care).
Of course, it is an oversimplification to say that there is just the two subcategories of being occasionally scared and being constantly scared. In reality, there is a wide spectrum which can be divided into any number of subcategories.

I can criticize someone for being a little bitch because they wear a helmet when they ride a motorcycle. I can ridicule them for being scared to race me at 90 miles an hour on I-10 during rush hour.

“You are just embarrassed that your expensive Harley can’t even keep up with my Honda. You’re arrogant and greedy and your politics are hysterical and your religion is dumb and if I was you I would be very embarrassed that you paid $12k for that USED Harley.”

Then there are all the people who respect fear. Of Course they also can have occasional episodes of fright or terror or panic, so this is really just the first category that I already mentioned.

However, not everyone in the first category fully respects fear. So, We could subdivide different levels of respect for fear in to 12 grades or 33 Masonic degrees.

Those people value fear as well as courage, which is taking action with the awareness of risk. Risk means “I know that there is some uncertainty and some potential for harm or injury or detriment.”

From fear can arise courage and from courage can arise faith. Faith is not the source of courage. It is an effect… or at least that is how I am using the word faith here.

Next is the word evil. My understanding is of the word evil ultimately is derived from the idea of something that smells so bad that it would be disgusting or cause people to vomit. That is the source source of the word foul, as in a foul odor.

so, there are things that are massively repulsive and disturbing and disruptive. They are foul. The ancient word “vilis” is the connection between “foul odors” and “vile smells” or “reviling scents.” From that root of “vilis,” we get other English words like vilify, villain, and evil.

Now on to money…. So, there are some translations of ancient texts which in English go like this: the love of money is the root of all evil. Often, that is further misquoted as “money is the root of all evil.”

I actually have no other new comments at this time on money or on evil. I linked some comments on money way back up there and you can go click it if you wish.

All of MS’s references to slavery and debt are addressed in the article linked at the beginning. Money is not the issue. Certainly, any form of paper currency is worthless without a court system recognizing it as a valid form of payment to discharge the debts that the court systems invents and imposes on their human resources with coercion. It is the coercive threat of the court system which results in people being interested in accumulating the sacred objects of that court system.

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