Faith and going beyond “the afterlife”

(this a reply to private comments on the prior blog post)
The Resurrected Jesus pulls Adam and Eve out o...

The Resurrected Jesus pulls Adam and Eve out of their graves, with Satan bound in Hell, Chora Church, Istanbul, c. 1315. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

What you call “the next life” is available now. It is a metaphor. If you take it literally, then you are operating in the realm of belief, not faith. Faith does not need “the next life” as a justification. Justifications are for those with a lack of faith.
You can insist that “the next life” is not here yet, calling it the afterlife. You can say that heaven is eternal but it has not started yet. I say that is foolishness as in naïveté, but those are certainly things that people can use language to say, and so what?
If you have been using “the next life” to perpetuate your own agonizing and stress and dis-ease and hell, that would be “good news” to know. However, many people cling to their agonizing for they are not willing to entertain the thought of heaven being eternal not just later, but all along including right now.
“Shedding of the body” is a concept (a fantasy) that does not give access to eternal heaven. That is another idea of postponement that you may entertain now. It is not the body that must die, but a spiritual death of the persona, of the sinning (the mistaken panicked thinking of the deluded mind). When the delusions die, that is called extinction or nibbana or nirvana.
Stop rejecting the presence of eternal heaven! Of course, it is silly to say “stop rejecting” because you do not even know what it is. You just talk about it like you are an expert. So, the fitting instruction for you now is not to stop but to slow down. If you can slow down your panicking and your agonizing, then eventually you can recognize that those reactions of stress could entirely stop. Once you slow down enough to recognize what sin is directly, then sin is no longer a problem, stress is no longer an enemy, did-ease is no longer a cause for panic. It is the very panicking that can stop. You are so deep in dis-ease and sin that you resist the idea that right now, there could be many who are not panicking or agonizing, but who are experiencing eternal heaven now.
Depiction of Adam and Eve being cast out from ...

Depiction of Adam and Eve being cast out from the Garden of Eden in the Dispersed Falnama (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Think of stories of Jesus. Did he panic in the midst of sin and dis-ease and stress? Because he knew what sin is, he did not fear it hysterically. He just said things like “that is hypocrisy and vanity” and “this one is close to heaven!”
So, when I talk of dis-ease, I am talking about a state of persistent tension or unease or worrying. I am not talking about sickness, like coughing, or any of the functioning of the immune system. I am talking about gratitude for the body, not suppressing it or shedding it because it is allegedly “so shameful.”
That is contempt (sin). Cease from any contempt for your body. Cease agonizing over it!
“Do not agonize over what you shall eat or what clothes to wear! That is agonizing! That is sinning! Your Heavenly Father will direct the unfolding of the future. Have faith, silly! Stop making the future in to a problem to solve, to agonize over, to justify the perpetuating of misery!” – Jesus
Re: “We will be joined with a perfect, immortal body.” No, you are already eternal spirit, but you practice misery and sin and so you do not recognize eternal spirit as present now and instead you talk about joining it in the future. That is nonsense. Lots of people writing down some nonsense and agreeing on it does not make it any more accurate.
So to address your final question, Wanting to be somewhere else, to become, etc… Is itself the stress and dis-ease and sin that produces misery or hell. I do not mean an interest in going from Phoenix, AZ to Scottsdale, AZ. I mean the hysterical rejection of what is, the panic of “I need to escape from my life,” the neurosis of all that.
English: The story of the Eden Garden. The tem...

English: The story of the Eden Garden. The temptation of Adam & Eve by the devil. Pedestal of the statue of Madonna with Child, western portal (of the Virgin), of Notre-Dame de Paris, France Français : L’histoire du Jardin d’Eden. Au premier plan la tentation d’Adam & Eve par le Diable. Base de la statue de la Vierge à l’Enfant, trumeau du portail de la Vierge, Façade ouest de Notre-Dame de Paris. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

If you just want to become an employee of some company or enter some professional field, then you just apply or get training. There is no misery in that. But you are talking about miserable forms of wanting, not only to become, but actually to avoid, to stop being what you are.
You reject what you are and of course that is the activity of misery. If you just accept that it is optional to reject what you are, then whether or not you accept or reject is no problem. Rejecting your eternal nature or accepting it does not change it. You are eternally what you are eternally no matter what you say you are or what you pretend to be. A human child pretending to be a cow does not alter their humanity or cowify them. It is just a role in a theatre!
As fits your readiness, you will explore your eternal nature and accept what you discover. All you have to do to end your misery is to know what it is to practice misery and then to slow down or even stop practicing misery.
Four Noble Truths

Four Noble Truths (Photo credit: Miguel Ramirez)

That is the basic formula of the four noble truths of Buddhism, but most Buddhists may not understand it (yet). Jesus did. So, he said things like “you are already forgiven! Now, go and sin no more. Stop agonizing. Stop miserabling. Stop hellinating. Be perfect just as your father in heaven created you perfectly. Be still and know the end of stress, of hell, of agonizing, of dis-ease. Be present to the eternal nature I AM, which was present before Abraham and before Isaiah and before Judas and even before Adam and Eve and Satan.”

Painting from Manafi al-Hayawan (The Useful An...

Painting from Manafi al-Hayawan (The Useful Animals), depicting Adam and Eve. From Maragh in Mongolian Iran. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

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One Response to “Faith and going beyond “the afterlife””

  1. jrfibonacci Says:

    DP wrote: “There is no next life. Reincarnation or endless Paradise or Hell are inventions of ego who doesn˙t want to die and can˙t accept that he is temporal. One is religious from love for God or from fear of deth?”

    JR replied:

    “Endless paradise” is just spiritual poetry. God does not need to speak of loving God or of criticizing ego. Forget all of that. Then, forget whether paradise is eternal. Forget whether there is even such a thing as paradise. Then, this is what “endless paradise” means. If the ego has been denying that this is already “endless paradise,” then that is just something that the ego has been denying. When it does not matter whether there is some ego denying that is is endless paradise or not, then endless paradise is recognized as being a paradise that has no beginning and no end, no conditions, no way to lose it, no method to reach it, and infinite numbers of spiritual poetries and mythologies to play with words and language and perception and attention and life.

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