Who said, “I AM THE LIVING GOD?”

Cindy wrote: “We are all one in the Father…. Our acceptance makes us perfect! Hallelujah.” (full quotation below)

 32And that scribe said to him, “Excellent, Rabbi! You have spoken the truth, for he is One, and there is not another outside of him.”

 

Blue Sky Growing a Tree Branch in the Garden o...

Blue Sky Growing a Tree Branch in the Garden of Success (Photo credit: epSos.de)

It is an absolute fact that a tree can form branches. Those branches are part of the life of the tree, right? The branches are not just made by the tree, but they are made of the tree. We could even say that the tree is the Father of the branches of the tree.

We can also say that a forest makes more trees and those trees are in the forest, and the forest is in those trees. The trees are made by the forest and the trees are made of the forest.

We can keep expanding the perspective to a very inclusive word like nature. Nature makes the forest. The forest is made by nature and the forest is made of nature.

When someone comes along and says “there is a reality that is similar to a mustard tree: the branches abide in the tree and the tree abides in the branches,” that can be a radical idea. Or, it may not really be all that unusual or mysterious.

 

31He told another parable to them and said, “The Kingdom of Heaven is likened to a grain of mustard seed which a man had taken and sown in his field. 32And this is the smallest of all seeds, but whenever it has grown, it is greatest of all small herbs and it becomes a tree so that a bird of the sky may come settle in its branches.”

http://aramaic-plain-english.scripturetext.com/matthew/13.htm

 

The forest and the trees and the branches are all made of nature by nature. God is an even more inclusive term than nature. All of nature including all the forest and the trees and the branches is included within God as formations of God by God.

Consider that when God forms various life forms, all of those life forms are formations of God, like the branches of a mustard tree are a formation of the mustard tree. Again, the branches are not just formed BY the tree. The branches are forms OF the tree.

 

30I and the Father are one.”

31Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, 32but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”

33“We are not stoning you for any of these,” replied the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

34Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are gods’e35If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— 36what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does. 38But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” 39Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.

http://niv.scripturetext.com/john/10.htm

 

Yes, our acceptance of our unity in God the Heavenly Father is the recognition of a kind of perfection. Every branch is a perfect formation of the tree by the tree, of the forest by the forest, of nature by nature, and of God by God.

We never *became* “one in the Father.” We have always been one in the Father. We just took a while to notice, to accept, to receive, to inherit, to experience, to develop.

Maybe some of us still reject it even now- and that is to be expected. Experiencing the isolated personal identity is a normal stage of development: to focus on the growing individuality rather than on a fundamental connection or unity.

Romans 12:5 so, in Christ, we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.

1 Corinthians 12:27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.


Ephesians 5:30 for we are members of his body.

Yeshua said to them: “Timeless truth I speak to you: Before Abraham would exist, I AM THE LIVING GOD.”

http://bible.cc/john/8-58.htm

 

So, I know that we are already one in the Father. This reality is not only a few thousand years old. That was just when Jesus spoke it to the Hebrews. The reality of which Jesus spoke is eternal.

This is why Jesus said “before Abraham was, I am.” He spoke about a reality that preceded the entire Hebrew tradition. Before the Hebrew language existed or any other language or even humanity, God was the tree and that tree had many branches (“my Father’s house has many mansions/many rooms” John 14:2).

Adam was a branch of God. Abraham was a branch of God. Jesus was a branch of God. There is nothing that you perceive that is not formed by God. Whatever you perceive about yourself is also formed by God.

It is not that only a few people are branches of God. All of life is the branching of God. Our acceptance of others as branches of God is our acceptance of ourselves as branches of God.

 

40“The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’

http://nasb.scripturetext.com/matthew/25.htm

 

No branch of a mustard tree becomes a branch of a mustard tree. From the beginning, a branch of a mustard tree is always a branch of

mustard tree. There is a realization similar to that in regard to God. From the beginning, a formation of God is always a formation of God.

It is the common practice of humans to reject the presence of God: “no, God cannot be under that rock. No, God cannot be in that tree. No, God cannot be in that building. No, God cannot be in that infant.”

It could be a very radical practice to say “In the name of God, I declare this infant to be an instrument of God, I even declare the presence of God within this infant, within this marriage, within this church, within this nation!” Who dares to say “in the name of God?” That is very radical indeed!

 

Cindy wrote: “We are all one in the Father by the Lord Jesus Christ and his blood being spilled as the blood debt to be paid for us. Our acceptance makes us perfect! Hallelujah.”

 

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
But whoever cleaves to our Lord becomes one spirit with him.

http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/6-17.htm

28One of the Scribes approached him and he heard them debating and he saw that he had answered them beautifully and he asked him, “Which is the first commandment of all?” 29Yeshua said to him, “The first of all the commandments: ‘Hear Israel, THE LORD JEHOVAH your God, THE LORD JEHOVAH, he is One.’ “ 30“’And you shall love THE LORD JEHOVAH your God with your whole heart and with your entire soul and with your entire mind and with all your power.’ This is the first commandment” 31“And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 32And that scribe said to him, “Excellent, Rabbi! You have spoken the truth, for he is One, and there is not another outside of him.” 33“And for a man to love him with all the heart and with the entire mind and with all the soul and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is more than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.” 34But Yeshua, seeing that he had answered wisely, answered and said to him, “You are not far from the Kingdom of God.” And no man again dared to question him.

http://aramaic-plain-english.scripturetext.com/mark/12.htm

<< John 15 >>
Aramaic Bible in Plain English

1I AM THE LIVING GOD, The True Vine, and my Father is the vine dresser (the gardener).

5“I AM THE LIVING GOD, The Vine, and you are the branches; whoever abides with me and I in him, this one brings forth much fruit, because without me, you can do nothing.”

 

Turn to Me, and be saved, all ends of the earth, For I am God, and there is none else.”

http://bible.cc/isaiah/45-22.htm

“….There is no other god but me: giver of death and life….”
//bible.cc/deuteronomy/32-39.htm

“I — I am Jehovah (The LORD), And besides Me there is no saviour.”

http://bible.cc/isaiah/43-11.htm

“For where there are two or three gathered together — to my name, there am I in the midst of them.'”

http://bible.cc/matthew/18-20.htm


 7“Now I know that everything whatsoever you have given me is from your Presence.”8“For the words that you gave me I have given them, and they have received them and known truly that I have proceeded from unity with you.” 9“I pray over them; I was not praying over the world, but I was praying for those whom you have given me, for they are yours, and they have believed that you have sent me.” 10“And everything that is mine is yours, and yours is mine, and I am glorified in them.”11“From now on, I do not dwell in the world, but these are in the world, and I am coming to join you. Holy Father, keep them in your Name- that Name which you have given me, so that they shall be one, just as we are.”

http://aramaic-plain-english.scripturetext.com/john/17.htm

..have you not read in the scripture of Moses how God said to him from the Bush, ‘I AM THE LIVING GOD, The God of Abraham, and the God of Isaaq and the God of Jaqob?’” 27“He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You therefore are greatly mistaken.”

http://aramaic-plain-english.scripturetext.com/mark/12.htm

 

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  5. Jerry Cartwright Says:

    Thank you for visiting my blog Christian Notions.

    • jrfibonacci Says:

      2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you–unless, of course, you fail the test?

  6. ansuyo Says:

    Thank you for sharing my article 🙂

  7. cindyhfrench Says:

    I am sorry, but I disagree with you. God is not a tree. Bottom line if you will. Did Jesus look like a tree? No, He looked like a man, because he took on the flesh of man , becoming man, from the spirit that he was.. You put in lots of scripture, good scriptures, but your commentaries are flawed. I can not approve comments for my blog site.

    • Jerry Cartwright Says:

      Maybe I am not seeing something you see in the article: Who said, “I AM THE LIVING GOD?” And I hope I am not offending you by my reply, but the Bible does have teachings by Jesus Himself regarding being like a branch etc.These scriptures are some of a few that describe what was said in the article.
      John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
      4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
      5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
      Romans 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
      24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
      Revelation 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
      Doesn’t those scriptures imply what was said in the article?
      I hope this helps. God bless you!

      • cindyhfrenchc Says:

        yes, those are great scriptures and I had just used them. I may be taking your writing too literally. But it’s too late at night for me to go thru-happy to do it another time so that you can see what my objection was.
        thanks

      • jrfibonacci Says:

        Thanks for the quotes, Jerry. John 15:1 is already quoted in the article, but after the commentary along with several other quotes.

        Here is the bottom line for me. If someone is clear about the nature of reality and how different forms of life are connected, then it is not controversial or mysterious to say that God is in every human and also in every tree.

        Someone can call it a philosophy or ideology and label it ____-ism, but that labeling is secondary. My comments are not for arguing. They are not to replace any other pattern of language.

        I am just using language to direct attention to a particular relationship or dynamic. If I listed 500 similar quotes from 500 various sources, that would be optional but fine, too.

        The authority of these words is not dependent on any religious tradition. The authority of these words is the source of the authority of all religious traditions that use similar patterns of words.

        If you read these words and then argue over them or use them arrogantly to shame others for not worshiping these words like you might, then it is better to cease from the idolatry of focusing on the words and missing the point altogether. If the book disturbs you and causes you to sin, then discard the book.

        However, if one is ready to consider that one’s own spirit has something in common with the spirit of prophets like Jesus and Isaiah, then let the branch turn to look within itself- to introspect- and find that the source of the branch is already there within the branch. Others may argue and resist and say, “no, God is not there. No, God did not create that. No, that is some other source besides God.” Woe unto that one! Let God’s grace sweep in to that heart and turn that heart away from evil but innocent misinterpretations and toward it’s own source.

      • Jerry Cartwright Says:

        Actually, jrfibonacci, I was replying to the lady’s comment. I had nothing to comment on your article. But for sure i am not in the least bit interested in you pantheistic attitude. This is what happens when good intentions end up embroiled in delusions. The scripture I quoted are exactly what Jesus said, not something I imagine was. God bless you!

      • jrfibonacci Says:

        Jerry,

        If Jesus were speaking to you right now and said something that did not fit any teaching you had ever heard yet, would you be open or would you criticize him? Your words reveal the condition of your spirit. You lack pride and thus make a show of arrogance instead.

        However, it is fortunate for you that you are open to the English translations of any ancient teachings. It is also unfortunate if you have been closed to anything in particular, but it is good to focus on what is comfortable until your faith grows to the point of clarity and courage. You seem to me argumentative and frightened, which often go together.

        So, if you are not willing to study ALL the scriptures and further to open to the source of the scriptures, then that is the stage you are at. May God’s grace bring the seed of your soul to blossom.

    • jrfibonacci Says:

      Hi Cindy,

      If you find it appealing to review these particular Christian scriptures that I presented in the above writing, that is fine. As for linking back from your blog, that is entirely up to you. Thank you for considering it.

      Also, if you reject those scriptures that I quoted or find them too disturbing or confusing, turn away from them. Or if you find the comments that I made too unfamiliar or too challenging or too frightening, then dismiss them. Either way, I say that God is within you. If you reject the idea that God is already within you, I would note that many others agree and reject the idea of God’s presence. People may use the language of rejecting the idea of God’s omnipresence: “no, God is not in those people- no, God is not within me- no, God is not in that organism.”

      Popular translations of Jesus refer to receiving the Holy Spirit. That is what the translators wrote hundreds of years ago or whatever. I have no dispute with them. However, I say to you: do you accept the Holy spirit within you now or do you reject it?

      I do not say this to shame you, but to simply invite you to accept the presence of the Holy Spirit within you already. You can call it receiving the Holy Spirit. I do not care about the labels. I am asking if you know the Holy Spirit as an experience and a reality within you now, or if “the Holy Spirit” is just a couple of words that you toss around occasionally as a neat idea, an intriguing ideal, even an idol to worship.

      Again, I do not care what words you speak with your lips. I am asking about your heart. Does your heart accept the presence of God now in your midst, within you and in your midst, or not? Rejecting it is not even really an issue. Do you recognize it or not? Do you accept it or not? Do you know it or not? Or, is it just a belief, a fantasy, a polite thing to say in order that other people will approve of you?

    • jrfibonacci Says:

      “Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you–unless, of course, you fail the test?”

      2 Corinthians 13:5

      • cindyhfrenchc Says:

        yes, the Holy Spirit lives w/in Me! Due to the great GRACE of God. I asked Jesus to come into my heart at age 20-didn’t I write that? and that is when the Holy Spirit came in. Now I was a babe- I had much to learn about God’s love letter to me, about His expectations of me, about my identity in Him and my destiny to do. It is now 41 years later and I can honestly say I have grown in the Lord- I know it by my relationship with Him. Our talking together- His understanding of the deepest parts of me. And in learning of Him, it has given me an overwhelming desire to tell others of Him and His gift of salvation and unconditional love and care. I share my faith every time He speaks the words out of my mouth. And I have been so thrilled to sometimes be the one who leads that person to Jesus. It’s only because He brings me prepared hearts-because He knows I will open my mouth and speak. It’s not that I am special-it is that He is special and has done all of the arranging to make this happen. Remember Jesus said “unless my Father calls to them…”

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